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The Guardian’s Adam Gabbatt writes from the Union Square rally to support Edward Snowden:

Around 20 people have gathered at Union Square to rally in support of Edward Snowden. It’s pouring with rain, which organisers say has impacted numbers.

“History has shown that whistle blowers of this nature tend to be demonised quickly,” said Andrew Stepanian, who helped organise the event. He said he hoped rallies like this would celebrate Snowden’s “heroic act” in exposing the extent of the US government’s surveillance.

Attendees wrote messages on yellow and pink signs expressing support for Snowden. Stepanian’s said: “We stand with Edward Snowden.” Another sign described Snowden as a “hero,” while one woman had a banner which said: “I [heart] Manning and Snowden.”

Jeff Jarvis, the prominent media commentator, was among those at the small rally. He said the revelations could be damaging for the US as other countries were already wary of storing their users’ data in the states.

“I also fear for the Internet,” he said. “I think this could yield more of a lack of trust in the cloud, which I think is bad for the Internet.”

Adam made a Vine of scenes from the rally here.

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“Call it digital Blackwater”: that’s the tagline of a new Tim Shorrock piece in Salon about the magnitude of the private contractor presence at US intelligence agencies:

With about 70 percent of our national intelligence budgets being spent on the private sector – a discovery I made in 2007 and first reported in Salon– contractors have become essential to the spying and surveillance operations of the NSA. [...]

If the 70 percent figure is applied to the NSA’s estimated budget of $8 billion a year (the largest in the intelligence community), NSA contracting could reach as high as $6 billion every year.

But it’s probably much more than that.

Read the full piece here. Tom Gara reports in the Wall Street Journal that of the 25,000 employees of Booz Allen Hamilton, whistleblower Edward Snowden’s employer, “76% have government security clearances allowing them to handle sensitive national security information.”

Rod McLeod, a regional security director for a major multinational company who spent 14 years with British military intelligence, tells the Guardian that Snowden’s case would be among the minority of leak cases in the UK, where most unauthorized disclosures of sensitive information are carried out by permanent staff.

McLeod (on Twitter) defines “insiders” as those who exploit their legitimate access to an organization’s assets for unauthorized purposes:

Recent (UK) evidence reveals that the majority (88%) of insider acts are actually carried out by permanent staff. Only 7% of cases involve contractors and 5% agency/temp staff. That said, there seem to be an enormous number of contractors working in the US intelligence community.

Back in the UK, other factors seem more closely aligned with these recent US cases. Most insiders have been male (82%), aged between 31-45 years and most take place within 5 years of employment (and extend over a period of around 6 months). The most frequent type of insider activity is unauthorized disclosure of sensitive information.

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George Orwell’s 1984 is climbing Amazon’s list of Movers & Shakers – the site’s “bigger gainers in sales rank overs the past 24 hours,” the Washington Examiner’s Charlie Spiering notes.

Sales are up 83% since Sunday.

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The Guardian’s Adam Gabbatt is in Union Square, where a rally to support Edward Snowden is proceeding under rainy skies:

British foreign secretary William Hague was specifically asked how the NSA collects the information and on what date Hague was made aware of the Prism programme.

He refused to answer this.

The statement and question session is now over.

The Guardian’s Rory Carroll reports on a crowdfunding campaign to help whistleblower Edward Snowden pay legal fees and other costs:

The campaign on Crowdtilt, an alternative to Kickstarter, has raised over $4,700 and is aiming for $15,000, urging would-be donors: “We should set a precedent by rewarding this type of extremely courageous behavior.”

Dwight Crow, a Facebook employee from San Francisco’s bay area, said he launched the initiative to reward and encourage whistleblowing and because he heard Snowden’s accounts had been frozen. He wrote: “Figured a little cash might help significantly :P

Crow said he hoped to get the money to Snowden in Hong Kong via relatives. How feasible this would be and whether there was any potential legal risk for donors was unclear.

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Here are the key quotes from British foreign secretary William Hague in full:

It has been suggested that GCHQ uses our partnership with the United States to get around UK law, obtaining information that they cannot legally obtain in the United Kingdom.

I wish to be absolutely clear that this accusation is baseless.

Any data obtained by us from the United States involving UK nationals is subject to proper UK statutory controls and safeguards …

Our agencies practise and uphold UK law at all times, even when dealing with information from outside the United Kingdom.

Hague was also asked whether any member of parliament was having his or her phone tapped. He refused to answer.

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The Electronic Frontier Foundation, an Internet rights group, calls for a “new Church committee” to investigate potential government infringements on privacy and to write new rules protecting the public.

In the mid-70s a Senate investigation led by Idaho Senator Frank Church uncovered decades of serious, systemic abuse by the US government of its eavesdropping powers, an episode Glenn Greenwald has written frequently about. The Church Committee report led to the passage of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act and set up the Fisa courts that today secretly approve surveillance requests.

A statement from EFF reads in part:

Congress now has a responsibility to the American people to conduct a full, public investigation into the domestic surveillance of Americans by the intelligence communities, whether done directly or in concert with the FBI. And it then has a duty to make changes in the law to stop the spying and ensure that it does not happen again.

In short, we need a new Church Committee.

Read the full statement here. There’s support for such a new push inside Congress, too. On Sunday Senator Rand Paul said he would try to challenge the NSA surveillance programs in court, and Senator Mark Udall said he wanted to “reopen” the Patriot Act, to clarify limits on what it allows. Republican Rep. Jim Sensenbrenner recently wrote an editorial for the Guardian saying “I authored the Patriot Act, and this is an abuse of that law.”

Responding to his Labour opposition shadow Douglas Alexander, British foreign secretary William Hague said he was not saying the security agencies were incapable of error – ”but I am arguing that there is a strong system of checks and balances”. The combination of ministerial oversight, independent scrutiny and parliamentary oversight minimise the chance of error, he said.

Hague was asked by Tory David Davis about US law that distinguishes how far the American government can apply surveillance to US citizens as opposed to foreigners. Hague said: “We apply our own laws.” All of the acts that we have passed relating to the gathering of intelligence are applied to data from other countries, Hague said.

Earlier my colleagues Nick Hopkins and Richard Norton-Taylor drew up a list of eight questions Hague had to answer.

He sort of answered question 4: has GCHQ been garnering information about British citizens living in the UK from the NSA? He said it was “baseless” to say that GCHQ had used the NSA to get around UK law.

And he sort of answered question 8: is he sure that GCHQ is strictly abiding by the law and ministerial oversight – and how can he be satisfied? He said British intelligence agencies practised and upheld UK law at all times.

But he failed to answer the other questions, which you can read again here.

Frank Gardner of the BBC said the key question was whether Hague said “no British law has been circumvented”. Hague does seem to have said that by saying British intelligence agencies always operated within the law and that GCHQ had not used the NSA to get around UK law.

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William Hague, the British foreign secretary, has just spoken to the House of Commons about GCHQ and Prism.

Hague said that the claim that GCHQ had used the NSA to get around UK law was “baseless”.

British intelligence agencies practise and uphold UK law at all times, he said.

The Commons intelligence and security committee has received some information from GCHQ and will receive a report from GCHQ tomorrow. He said the committee would be free to take any further action it saw fit once it had read the report.

Hague said that to intercept any individual’s communications required a warrant signed by him or another secretary of state and was “no casual process”. Not every proposal was approved, he said. The system of checks and balances was one of the strongest anywhere in the world, he said.

The relationship between GCHQ and its US equivalents – today the NSA – was a unique one, Hague said, and was “essential” to the security of both nations. It had stopped many terrorist and espionage plots and saved many lives, he said.

The basic principles of the relationship and the framework for exchanging information had not changed.

Hague said he deplored the leaking of any classified information wherever it occurs. Leaks are dangerous because they provide a “partial and misleading picture”, he claimed.

He said he would not confirm or deny any aspect of the leaked information.

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The Guardian’s Spencer Ackerman flags a 2012 video featuring Booz Allen Hamilton CEO and president Ralph Shrader talking about how the company can respond quickly in the event of a security breach.

“If a breach occurs, we’re there to help, with real-time incident response,” Shrader says in the video, “Missions that Matter: Inspired Thinking,” which was produced to go with the company’s 2012 annual report.

On Sunday whistleblower Edward Snowden, accused of / credited with creating a major intelligence breach, revealed himself to be a Booz Allen Hamilton employee. In a statement the company called the revelation “shocking.”

“Booz Allen’s inspired thinking can also be seen in the way our people apply their expertise to help make the world a better place,” Shrader says, but he was talking about reducing gang violence.

I’ve been speaking with Guardian finance and economics editor Heidi N. Moore, who notes that BAH stock, which is down 4.22% on the day as of this writing, is trading at five times normal volume today.

Not everyone thinks it’s an obvious sell. Here’s CNN Money:

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William Hague, the British foreign secretary, is about to address the House of Commons on the relationship between GCHQ and Prism. We’ll be covering his statement and his answers to MPs’ questions here.

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New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg has cancelled at extremely short notice a planned photo op this morning with Hong Kong chief executive, Leung Chun-ying.

The Guardian’s Matt Williams headed down to New York’s city hall to capture the moment, only to be turned away.

“It would have been a circus, so we decided to catch up with him another time,” a mayoral spokesperson told Matt.

Guardian columnist Glenn Greenwald is an active Twitter user whose timeline hosts many lively mini-debates about privacy and security issues:

Here is a video presenting two expert views on Edward Snowden’s decision to seek refuge in Hong Kong and the likelihood or not of his finding such refuge there.

Regina Ip, Hong Kong’s former security secretary, calls on Snowden to “leave Hong Kong.”

“Hong Kong is not a legal vacuum as Mr. Snowden might have thought,” she says:

However Simon Young of the University of Hong Kong says “coming to Hong Kong is probably a good decision”:

because not only do we have protections under extradition law through the court system, and the political offense exception, but we also have strong protections for people making asylum claims.

Young says he doesn’t think China “is going to be involved in any decision. I think that this is a matter that China is going to leave to Hong Kong’s autonomy.”

A spokesman for the director of national intelligence, James Clapper, said Snowden’s case had been referred to the justice department and US intelligence was assessing the damage caused by the disclosures. The spokesman, Shawn Turner, said:

Any person who has a security clearance knows that he or she has an obligation to protect classified information and abide by the law.

Read the full report by the Guardian’s Julian Borger and Spencer Ackerman here.

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Daniel Ellsberg, who as a 40-year-old defense researcher leaked documents to the New York Times 40 years ago that would become known as the Pentagon Papers, writes in the Guardian that Snowden’s disclosure “gives us the possibility to roll back a key part of what has amounted to an ‘executive coup’ against the US constitution.”

“In my estimation, there has not been in American history a more important leak than Edward Snowden’s release of NSA material – and that definitely includes the Pentagon Papers 40 years ago,” Ellsberg writes:

The government claims it has a court warrant under Fisa – but that unconstitutionally sweeping warrant is from a secret court, shielded from effective oversight, almost totally deferential to executive requests. As Russell Tice, a former National Security Agency analyst, put it: “It is a kangaroo court with a rubber stamp.”

For the president then to say that there is judicial oversight is nonsense – as is the alleged oversight function of the intelligence committees in Congress. Not for the first time – as with issues of torture, kidnapping, detention, assassination by drones and death squads –they have shown themselves to be thoroughly co-opted by the agencies they supposedly monitor. They are also black holes for information that the public needs to know.

Read the full piece here.

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Christine Harper is chief financial correspondent for Bloomberg News:

Wikileaks founder Julian Assange claims he has had “indirect communication” with Edward Snowden, the whistleblower behind the Guardian’s exclusive revelations on the NSA surveillance scandal, reports Oliver Laughland in Sydney.

Speaking to Lateline, an Australian current affairs TV show, from the Ecuadorian embassy in London, Assange declined to go into detail on the nature or level of correspondence he had entered into with Snowden’s “people”, but claimed that the whistleblower stood for the same the aims of the Wikileaks organisation.

“What he [Snowden] has revealed, is what I’ve been speaking about for years, that the National Security Agency and its allies have been involved in a mass interception programme,” he said.

Assange, who is standing for election in the Australian senate later this year, also claimed that Snowden’s actions complemented those of the Wikileaks political party.

“If I am elected to the [Australian senate], the Australian Wikileaks party position is there should be no interception, none at all of Australians without proper judicial oversight…

“We run the danger here of the west more broadly drifting into a state where there are two systems. There is one law for the average person and there is another law if you are inside the American intelligence complex … That is not acceptable, I don’t believe Australians find that acceptable, I don’t believe Americans find that acceptable, Snowden clearly didn’t find it acceptable, and he was even someone in the system.”

When pressed on precisely the sort of correspondence he had with the whistleblower, Assange said: “I don’t think it’s appropriate we go into more details.”

Frank Gardner of the BBC was just telling BBC News that if William Hague does not say “no British law has been circumvented” during his statement to parliament in an hour he (Gardner) will be concerned.

Index on Censorship, the free-speech lobby group, has condemned the Prism programme.

“Mass surveillance is a major chill to free expression and so undermines the right to free speech as well as the right to privacy,” the group wrote in a statement calling on the EU’s José Manuel Barroso and Herman van Rompuy to “stand up against mass surveillance on the scale seen in the Prism programme and to stand by the EU’s position against mass surveillance”.

Kirsty Hughes, the group’s CEO, said:

National security should not be used by governments to justify the mass surveillance of their citizens. This is not about the targeted surveillance of criminals but surveillance of private citizens on a massive scale. It is the kind of free speech violation we expect from Iran and China, not a democracy like the US. The Prism scandal shows that tech companies’ transparency reports are just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to data surveillance by governments.

A Hong Kong legislator has called for Edward Snowden to leave the territory, the Independent reports. Regina Ip, whom the paper describes as a “pro-Beijing” legislator, said Hong Kong was “obliged to comply with the terms of agreements” with the US government (although this includes exceptions for political fugitives) and adds: “It’s actually in his best interest to leave Hong Kong.”

The US army has confirmed an aspect of surveillance whistleblower Edward Snowden‘s military service to the Guardian, Spencer Ackerman writes from New York.

As Snowden told the Guardian in announcing his responsibility for detailing multiple mass surveillance efforts by the National Security Agency sweeping up Americans’ communications data, Snowden indeed tried to join the elite special forces.

Snowden was unsuccessful.

“His records indicate he enlisted in the army reserve as a special forces recruit (18X) on 7 May 2004 but was discharged 28 September 2004,” the US army’s chief civilian spokesman, George Wright, emailed the Guardian on Monday.

“He did not complete any training or receive any awards,” Wright added.

Wen Yunchao, an outspoken Chinese blogger now based in Hong Kong, has noted on Twitter that Snowden has “left the tiger’s den and entered the wolf’s lair”, the Guardian’s China correspondent Tania Branigan notes.

Julian Assange of Wikileaks has been speaking to the Lateline news programme in Australia about the Snowden case. My colleagues in our Sydney office are watching and will send me full details shortly.

Snowden told the Guardian that he chose Hong Kong because of its “spirited commitment to free speech and the right of political dissent“. Yet analysts say that mainland China’s encroaching influence in the territory’s schools, media and courts have put these values at risk, reports Jonathan Kaiman in Hong Kong.

“Most people here just got the news this morning, and they are very, very surprised,” said Luther Ng, a television journalist in Hong Kong. Ng called Hong Kong a “free, but not democratic city,” where “freedom of speech is getting tighter and tighter”.

“I hope [Snowden] is right,” said Charles Mok, a member of Hong Kong’s Legislative Council. “To some, these comments about Hong Kong’s environment may be an encouragement. To others it’s a reminder that we need to preserve it, to make sure it doesn’t go away.”

“At least in the system here, being in the Legislative Council, we don’t get to decide what happens to him,” Mok continued. “We’ll keep a close eye on him, but we want to make sure that China doesn’t just grab the guy and turn him over to the Americans.”

“[Snowden] is right, but he should also know that people here are very worried about losing our freedoms,” said Emily Lau, another member of Hong Kong’s legislative council and chairwoman of the influential Democratic party. “That’s why we are so vigorous and so vocal – when we see anything we think is wrong, we speak out, we protest … The government is coming in thick and fast, and people are concerned.”

Questions for Hague

Nick Hopkins and Richard Norton-Taylor have drawn up this list of the questions British foreign secretary William Hague has to answer in the Commons at 3.30pm BST about the legal framework under which GCHQ operates.

Hague is the cabinet minister responsible for the agency and has already stated that it is “nonsense” to suggest GCHQ acts outside the law, ahead of any probe by the Interception of Communications Commissioner Office, or the intelligence and security committee. Here are the questions:

1. When did he first learn of the Prism programme?

2. Was he told by GCHQ the method by which the NSA was gathering the material?

3. How long has GCHQ had access to Prism?

4. Has GCHQ been garnering information about British citizens living in the UK from the NSA?

5. Was the interception commissioner told about Prism, and was he allowed to review the documents around it?

6. How does he ensure that all GCHQ communication intercepts, including those provided by the NSA, are legal?

7. Should GCHQ be subjected to more scrutiny to reassure the public and parliament?

8. Is he sure that GCHQ is strictly abiding by the law and ministerial oversight – and how can he be satisfied?

Carl Miller of the British thinktank Demos is more surprised at the tech companies who collaborated with Prism than the fact the US operated the programme.

The real and sensational revelation is that this transfer of data was allegedly on the basis of willing, cooperation from the internet giants – Google, Facebook, Hotmail, Yahoo, Apple – as voluntary ‘Special Sources’ for the NSA. These same internet companies have, both in public and in private championed the privacy of their users’ data and long and noisily championed a vision of a free internet altogether hostile to government involvement in the internet. They have consistently opposed a British attempt – the Communications Data Bill – to create a legal basis to be able to conduct information collections ironically similar to those revealed in the slides. Google, for instance, publishes regular transparency reports on attempts by public authorities across the world to remove content from its search index.

The fact that these very same companies were willing, if secret, partners in this endeavour, whilst mounting a vocal opposition to it, would be a gruesome hypocrisy. ‘You have to fight for your privacy or you will lose it’, Google’s Eric Schmidt insisted earlier this year. The stunning duplicity is, it seems, this is exactly what they have failed to do.

The communications data bill was blocked by Nick Clegg, the UK deputy prime minister, but since the murder of Drummer Lee Rigby in Woolwich last month there have been calls to put it back on the table, with talk that Labour could work with the Tories on it to circumvent Lib Dem objections. Miller argues that the internet companies implicated in Prism have now lost the moral authority to oppose the communications data bill.

In the US, Peter King, the Republican chairman of the House of Representatives counter-terrorism and intelligence subcommittee, has called for Snowden to be extradited from Hong Kong and prosecuted. He flew there 10 days ago in order to disclose the top-secret documents and give interviews to the Guardian. King said:

If Edward Snowden did in fact leak the NSA data as he claims, the United States government must prosecute him to the fullest extent of the law and begin extradition proceedings at the earliest date. The United States must make it clear that no country should be granting this individual asylum. This is a matter of extraordinary consequence to American intelligence.

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Malcolm Rifkind, the chair of the UK’s intelligence and security committee, has suggested that GCHQ may have broken the law if it accepted information from the NSA on British citizens through Prism, Patrick Wintour and Nicholas Watt report. Rifkind told BBC Radio 4 this morning:

One of the big questions that is being asked is if British intelligence agencies want to seek to know the content of emails can they get round the normal law in the UK by simply asking an American agency to provide that information?

The law is actually quite clear. If the British intelligence agencies are seeking to know the content of emails about people living in the UK then they actually have to get lawful authority. Normally that means ministerial authority. That applies equally whether they are going to do the intercept themselves or whether they are going to ask somebody else to do it on their behalf.

Rifkind will meet NSA and CIA representatives in Washington this week.

Douglas Alexander, the shadow foreign secretary, said he was going to ask William Hague, the foreign secretary, today about the legal framework GCHQ worked under:

What we need clarity from the foreign secretary [about] today is the legal framework governing UK access to intercepts secured by the NSA.

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My colleague Nick Hopkins notes that since the revelations on Friday, neither GCHQ nor any government minister has denied the agency had access to material gathered by Prism.

The classified documents obtained by the Guardian stated that GCHQ had last year generated 197 intelligence reports from Prism, which was set up in 2007 to help the US monitor traffic of potential suspects abroad.

The papers also showed GCHQ, the UK’s eavesdropping and security agency, has had access to Prism since at least May 2010. Nick writes:

Ministers have also not attempted to explain why GCHQ would need to access information from Prism, rather than going through the normal legal protocol when seeking information from an internet company based in another country. This involves making a formal request to the US department of justice, which would make the approach to the firm on the UK’s behalf. The company then has to decide whether to provide information.

In the UK, GCHQ is bound by the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act to seek approval for intercepting material from telecoms and UK-based internet companies …

Prof Peter Sommer, a cybersecurity expert, said it was well known the US and British intelligence agencies shared information, but asked whether [William] Hague and Theresa May, the home secretary, had any way of independently verifying what the GCHQ, MI5 and MI6 were telling them.

The intelligence and interception commissioner, who reviews whether the agencies are working to the letter of the law, and the members of the parliamentary intelligence and security committee (ISC), have some powers of scrutiny, but Sommer questioned whether they had enough resources to give proper oversight.

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David Cameron’s official spokesman has also spoken about GCHQ’s relationship with Prism this morning:

I think the PM’s view is that the agencies operate within this framework and as the foreign secretary said the idea that in GCHQ people are sitting working out how to circumvent a UK law with another agency in another country is fanciful.

He thinks that the necessary and important frameworks are in place and that there has been a lot of questions that have been raised and the right thing to do is for the foreign secretary to go to the House [of Commons] and give a statement.

He refused to be drawn on whether the UK and the US had discussed the allegations.

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Here is some of the Guardian’s key coverage of Edward Snowden and his revelations about the US internet surveillance programme.

Here Julian Borger, our diplomatic editor, explains why Snowden’s decision to choose Hong Kong as the place where he would unmask himself represents a “high-stakes gamble”.

Just before sovereignty over Hong Kong passed from Britain to China in 1997, the US signed a new extradition treaty with the semi-autonomous territory. Under that treaty, both parties agree to hand over fugitives from each other’s criminal justice systems, but either side has the right of refusal in the case of political offences.

Beijing, which gave its consent for Hong Kong to sign the agreement, also has a right of veto if it believes the surrender of a fugitive would harm the “defence, foreign affairs or essential public interest or policy” of the People’s Republic of China. In short, the treaty makes Snowden’s fate a matter of political expediency not just in Hong Kong but in Beijing …

The combination of a comparatively liberal civic culture and the sovereignty of Beijing, America’s great Pacific rival with which it has an often testy relationship, seems to have been a factor in Snowden’s choice of Hong Kong. It may play to his advantage that Presidents Barack Obama and Xi Jinping reportedly agreed to differ on cybersecurity issues in their weekend summit in California. Against this background, Snowden’s extradition might be seen in the party leadership in Beijing as a capitulation. But such calculations can change.

• The Guardian’s Glenn Greenwald and Ewen MacAskill asked Snowden a number of key questions over several days. Here are his answers in Q&A form. They include:

Q: Why did you decide to become a whistleblower?

A: “The NSA has built an infrastructure that allows it to intercept almost everything. With this capability, the vast majority of human communications are automatically ingested without targeting. If I wanted to see your emails or your wife’s phone, all I have to do is use intercepts. I can get your emails, passwords, phone records, credit cards.

“I don’t want to live in a society that does these sort of things … I do not want to live in a world where everything I do and say is recorded. That is not something I am willing to support or live under.”

Q: What about the Obama administration‘s protests about hacking by China?

A: “We hack everyone everywhere. We like to make a distinction between us and the others. But we are in almost every country in the world. We are not at war with these countries.”

Q: Is it possible to put security in place to protect against state surveillance?

A: “You are not even aware of what is possible. The extent of their capabilities is horrifying. We can plant bugs in machines. Once you go on the network, I can identify your machine. You will never be safe whatever protections you put in place.”

Q: Washington-based foreign affairs analyst Steve Clemons said he overheard at the capital’s Dulles airport four men discussing an intelligence conference they had just attended. Speaking about the leaks, one of them said, according to Clemons, that both the reporter and leaker should be “disappeared”. How do you feel about that?

A: “Someone responding to the story said ‘real spies do not speak like that’. Well, I am a spy and that is how they talk. Whenever we had a debate in the office on how to handle crimes, they do not defend due process – they defend decisive action. They say it is better to kick someone out of a plane than let these people have a day in court. It is an authoritarian mindset in general.”

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David Cameron has been speaking about the cooperation and involvement of the UK’s GCHQ intelligence agency with the US Prism programme.

He emphasised repeatedly that the British security services operated within UK law (“a law that we have laid down”).

The British prime minister said:

First of all I think it’s worth remembering why we have intelligence services and what they do for us.

We do live in a dangerous world. We live in a world of terror and terrorism. We saw that on the streets of Woolwich only too recently.

And I think it is right that we have well-organised, well-funded intelligence services to help keep us safe.

But let me be absolutely clear. They are intelligence services that operate within the law, within a law that we have laid down, and they are also subject to proper scrutiny by the intelligence and security committee in the House of Commons.

And that scrutiny is going to be very important, and I’ll always make sure that it takes place.

He was asked how long GCHQ had been cooperating with Prism, and said the foreign secretary, William Hague, would “answer all these questions” in a statement to the Commons expected this afternoon at 3.30pm. But he added:

Let us be clear. We can’t give a running commentary on intelligence issues.

There will be things that he will be able to explain, questions he will be able to answer. I’m satisfied, as I’ve said, we have intelligence agencies that do a fantastically important job for this country to keep us safe and they operate within the law. They operate within a legal framework and they also operate within a framework of being open to proper scrutiny by the intelligence and security committee.

That is what the foreign secretary will discuss today in the House of Commons. And he and I have discussed this matter, will continue to discuss this matter, always to make sure that we are satisfied that they operate properly in our interests and within the law.

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Good morning.

On Sunday the Guardian revealed the source behind its series of stories on the US National Security Agency – one of the most significant leaks in US political history.

Edward Snowden, 29, revealed his identity at his own request.

Here he talks about why he revealed the existence of the US’s Prism programme, which gives the NSA direct access to the systems of Google, Facebook, Apple and other US internet giants:

I really want the focus to be on these documents and the debate which I hope this will trigger among citizens around the globe about what kind of world we want to live in. My sole motive is to inform the public as to that which is done in their name and that which is done against them.

You can watch Snowden – who is now in Hong Kong – speaking about his decision to go public and his thoughts about the US government’s probable reaction might be in this video interview.

We’ll have full coverage of the continuing fallout from the revelations here throughout the day.

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Congressman Aaron Schock – who is relatively young, to be fair – says “The IRS’s steller reputation of being above partisan politics has been shattered.” Well, for starters…

Congressman Danny Davis: ”I am not convinced that this is a great, big political conspiracy.” Ohh??

Here’s the heart of the problem and what is not likely to be constructively resolved while everyone focuses on babbling about how President Obama is the New Nixon:

It gets into stickier territory when, in the process of trying to parse it out, the IRS feels it needs to look at donor lists to groups in questions. Miller says there needs to be a powerful rationale for requesting such lists, but again: all of these guidelines are very hazy.

Miller is already getting criticized by conservative commentators for saying earlier that the IRS needs a “bigger budget” to help fix the problems its dealing with. And perhaps that was tone-deaf for today’s hearing.

But as congressman Earl Blumenauer is saying now, what sense does it make for Congress to keep making the tax code more and more complex without giving the IRS additional resources?

It makes perfect political sense. Which means it’s pretty irrational.

Republicans have not been willing to accept this as satisfactory:

Congressman Tom Price is up and appears to have his grandstanding pants today. He describes the government asking people what books they read as “chilling,” then pauses for a while, presumably for us to figure out where he’s going with this.

Price is now working the GOP’s tenuous IRS scandal/Obamacare angle du jour: That Sarah Hall Ingram, who served as head of the IRS’ tax-empt division from 2009-2012, now heading the IRS’… Affordable Care Act compliance division! 

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George says “yes” to a question about whether it would be helpful to have a “tightening” of rules for 501(c)(4) “social welfare” applications. He believes the IRS can do this without additional legislation being passed.

Miller, again, is asked about whether he, or an underling at the IRS, spoke to anyone in the administration from 2010 onward about the sharing of confidential taxpayer information, in violation of the law.

“I have no knowledge of that,” he answers.

“Did you ever speak to anyone in Treasury, not within the IRS, about the sharing of confidential taxpayer information,” congressman Jim Gerlach presses.

Miller evades.

“I can say categorically that I never shared information,” Miller says, adding that he “doesn’t know” if he talked to anyone in the administration about the sharing of information.

It got a bit circular, there.

Inspector general George, in response to a question, reiterates that activity was “inappropriate,” not “illegal.”

Miller is being quizzed about whether he has notes on talking to IRS employees. “Sir, please,” he eventually says.

We’re back. Democratic congressman Lloyd Doggett is up, and chastises chair Dave Camp’s earlier comments about the tax system being “rotten,” noting that Republicans are already trying to use this controversy to take down the new health care law over its tax provisions.

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Briefly, here’s how things have been going: Republicans are mainly trying to nail Miller on why the IRS “targeted” conservative groups and to find a link to the White House; Democrats have been more concerned with the pressures that the flood of 501(c)(4) applications have brought to the IRS. Both, however, acknowledge that the IRS had been handling applications irresponsibly in the highlighted cases.

One special congressman asked if “this is still America,” also, too.

Fifteen minute recess! Everyone go have a nice snack.

Congressman Dave Reichert, with the latest lecture-from-dad type question: Does this committee have the right to know the truth. “This is the United States Congress which you’re accountable to… do you not believe it’s your job to provide us with the information you knew?”

He adds that “I was a cop for 33 years,” for some reason.

Miller is asked to explain the difference between 501(c)(4) non-profits and section 527 political organizations. It’s “difficult,” he says, but they try to look at the level of political expenditures.

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Dare we suggest that we’re at the point where lines of questioning are getting repetitive? Democrat Xavier Becerra is, again, talking about the vagueness of guidelines on 501(c)(4) organizations. Which is a big problem! The hearing should be focused on that, maybe.

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Congressman Robert Neal notes that Merriam-Webster’s word of the day is “litmus test” and – after saying that Merriam-Webster is located in his district (hoorah!) – inquires about whether a corrupt “litmus test” was used to single out conservative tax-emption applications.

He, like many of the Democrats today, goes on to discuss the post-Citizens United “rush” of money into 501(c)(4) groups, under the banner of social welfare, but really for political causes. “There wasn’t this rush to join Sisters of Mercy,” he notes wryly.

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And now there’s Republican Devin Nunes, making the latest attempt to show that this is all Obama’s fault and the administration is evil and loves targeting conservative groups, for bloodsport.

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Congressman Jim McDermott notes that the folks in the Cincinnatti IRS office just “screwed up,” and deserve punishment, but it’s really the vagueness of the 501(c)(4) criteria and amount of information coming through the IRS that leads to such problems.

He stands up for the “thousands and thousands” of “hardworking” employees at the IRS who show up everyday to work at one of the most “hated” organizations. Miller appreciates that.

Vice Presi… err… Congressman Paul Ryan is now up, and grilling Miller on why he hadn’t disclosed “targeting” that he was briefed on to Congress earlier. How can Miller say that “he did not mislead this committee?”

He is trying to explain that the “targeting” list of terms was used to weed out 501(c)(4) applications that appeared to be from “political” groups (as opposed to what are supposedly “social welfare” causes), not just conservative groups. It just so happened that many of them were conservative groups.

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(Referring to the flood of money that’s come into 501(c)(4)s since the Supreme Court case Citizens Union… United… Whatever.)

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Congressman Charlie Rangel, who not that long ago faced all sorts of scandals relating to his tax returns and financial disclosures, is lecturing Miller now.

Miller: “Again, I’m going to take exception to the notion of ‘targeting,’ because it’s a loaded term.” His parsing is not impressing Mr. Brady, the fellow who wanted to know if this country is still America.

Congressman Kevin Brady: “Is this still America?” WELL? IS IT, MILLER?

Both Democratic questioners so far have pointed out that former IRS commissioner Shulman, under whom this started, was appointed by President George W. Bush.

Crowley, a romantic, asks Republicans to focus on getting the facts before making wild political accusations. So adorable.

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It’s gotcha video time!

The clip was like two seconds long. Miller stumbles over his words a bit saying Shulman was “incorrect, but not untruthful.” He notes that “targeting” is a “pejorative” term – in other words, it was not malicious, but certain screens for likely abuse were put in place.

Here’s what our Ewen MacAskill is seeing early on:

Miller so far seems a likeable and credible witness, the best kind of public servant, down to earth, not nerdy, the kind of guy who looks as if he is looking forward to joining his mates at the bar tonight. So he is going to make it hard for hostile Republicans.

Miller has done the right things so far. He has apologised, said the mistakes were foolish and were not partisanship.

What makes it really hard for the Republicans is that Miller has already been sacked so it is hard to touch him. All they can do is try to establish a link between the rogue employees in Cincinnati and the Obama administration and Miller has already said there is none, that he had not reported the incident up the chain.

Camp’s questions indicated that he’s trying to make this as expansive as possible – by looking at not just at small Tea Party groups’ applications at the Cincinnatti IRS office, but also those of big-name 501(c)(4) groups like the National Organization for Marriage and ones started by the Koch Brothers that received additional scrutiny.

Camp closes with a coy little kindergarten lecture: What is it called when you’re asked to disclose the truth and you don’t disclose the truth? (Ooh ooh, We think the answer Camp wants is “lying”!) Miller responds that he always tells the truth.

Camp asks Miller if he was aware that the White House explained a private group’s tax structure to reporters on a conference call in 2010. He thinks he read it “in the newspaper.” He does “not recall” if he made any efforts to pass on this alleged violation of tax law to the IG.

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Miller is beginning his opening statement. He claims that the organization did not have enough notice (two days) to prepare full written testimony. He gives a brief statement, apologizing, and saying that the findings in the IG report are “consistent” with what happened. He notes, however, that the problems were nothing more than “mistakes.”

George, the inspector general, is giving his opening statement, largely reiterating the finds of his report.

Congressman Sandy Levin, the Democratic ranking member on the committee, is just as righteous in his fury – a relatively rare bipartisan occurrence that doesn’t speak well for Steven Miller’s morning. He emphasizes that the IRS’ head of the tax exemption division, Lois Lerner, “should be relieved of her duties.”

He does, however, warn the GOP not to make this a kickoff to its 2014 campaign season. Advice that will surely be heeded!…??

Dave Camp, chair of the committee, in his opening statement: “This is not a personnel problem. This is a problem of the IRS being too large, too powerful, too intrusive and too abusive.” He calls the tax system “rotten at the core.”

Meanwhile, this is true:

Good morning, this is Jim Newell in Washington. We’re here to cover what will presumably be the most unpleasant day of acting IRS commissioner Steven Miller‘s soon-to-be-over career.

Miller, who was fired on Wednesday, officially stays on duty until next Wednesday. And today he will join J Russell George, the Treasury inspector general for tax administration, as a witness in a hearing before the House Ways and Means committee on the IRS’s “practice of discriminating” against organizations for political purposes.

It will be the first hearing with Miller as a witness since news broke two weeks ago that applications from groups seeking tax-exempt status, frequently those with names including terms like “Tea Party,” were singled out by the IRS for extra scrutiny starting in early 2010. Three years later, some have still not been processed.

George’s IG report, released on Tuesday, found that “inappropriate criteria were used to identify tax-exempt applications for review,” and made a series of recommendations for the IRS to take going forward. Its released prompted the administration to relieve Miller of his (acting duties).

Miller will have a lawyer at today’s hearing. He does face the threat of self-incrimination if he chooses to speak. And with lawmakers on both sides, but especially Republicans who’ve been concerned about the IRS’ alleged practice of selective enforcement in the past, looking to jam him, it will be a tense morning.

The hearing is scheduled to begin at 9am.

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A question from a Turkish reporter about chemical weapons in Syria. Has Assad crossed the red line in Syria?

Erdogan first: “On chemical weapons… all that information is shared by our administrations… We share information. We will continue to work in this way.”

Obama: We are “constantly sharing information. We have seen evidence of the use of chemical weapons inside of Syria. It is important to us to make sure that we’re able to get more specific information. .. But separate from chemical weapons… we know that tens of thousands are being killed.”

The president says the US will continue its humanitarian support, its support for the opposition and “try to mobilize the entire international community” to pressure Assad.

As for the red line, “What I have said is that the use of chemical weapons are something that the civilized world has recognized should be out of bounds. And as we gather more evidence… my intention is to make sure we’re representing what we know to the international community.”

He then seems to leave it to the international community “to put what pressure they can” on Assad.

“This is also an international problem. It’s very much my hope to continue to work with all the various parties involved, including Turkey, to find a solution.

Then he dismisses the possibilities for unilateral US actions:

“I don’t think anyone in the region, including the prime minister, thinks that US unilateral actions by themselves would bring about a resolution.”

Erdogan is asked whether he still plans to visit Gaza.

He says yes, in June, and that he also will visit the West Bank. “I place a lot of significance on this visit in terms of peace in the Middle East,” he says.

First question: Did anyone in the White House know about the investigation of misconduct at the IRS before the news reports? Shouldn’t the president have known before he heard it on the news?

“I spoke to this yesterday,” Obama says. “My main concern is fixing a problem. We began that process by accepting the resignation of the acting director. We will be putting in new leadership… that we gather all the facts, that we hold accountable those who have taken these outrageous actions.”

He calls the episode “unacceptable.”

It’s really raining now. Obama asks for Marines with umbrellas. They duly appear.

“You guys I’m sorry about,” Obama tells the press.

“I certainly did not know anything about the IG report before [it] had been leaked through the press,” Obama says.

Erdogan says he’s going to cut his remarks short “but not to flee from the rain!”

Obama asks him if he wants an umbrella. Erdogan declines.

Erdogan thanks the president for hosting him. He offers condolences for the Boston marathon bombings. He calls for a strengthened bilateral trade agreement.

On Syria, “we have views that overlap,” Erdogan says. “Ending this bloody process in Syria and meeting the legitimate demands of the people by establishing a new government are two areas where we are in full agreement… We also agree that we have to prevent Syria from becoming a place for terrorist organizations.”

Erdogan says that chemical weapons must not be used in Syria.

“I want to make one other point. There’s been intense discussion… around the attacks in Benghazi,” the president says.

“I am intent on making sure… we prevent another tragedy like this. At my direction, we’ve been taking a series of steps that were recommended by the review board after the incident.”

He says they’re reviewing security; improving training; increasing intelligence and early-warning capabilities at diplomatic outposts.

“We’re not going to be able to do this alone. We need congressional partners.”

Obama says he’s calling on Congress to fund the state budget to provide for better security.

Obama then offers his condolences for “the outrageous bombings that took place in Reyhanli. As always the US stands with you as your country fight against terrorism,” he says.

Obama praises what he calls Erdogan’s successful fight against PKK violence.

Obama turns to Syria, saying Turkey has shown “extraordinary generosity” in hosting refugees. The US will remain a major donor of humanitarian aid to refugees to help “shoulder this burden,” he says.

“We’re going to keep increasing pressure on the Assad regime and working with the Syrian opposition.

“We both agree that Assad needs to go,’ Obama says. Assad needs to transfer power to a transitional body, the president says.

Obama announces a new “high-level committee” to foster trade with Turkey, which he says is a crucial complement to EU trade.

As NATO allies, we’re reinforcing our commitment to our shared security, Obama says.

This visit reflects the importance that the United States places on its relationship with our ally, Turkey,” Obama says.

He says they’ve discussed Afghanistan, “where our troops serve together,” the G20, and Iran “where we agree it is critical that that country not obtain a nuclear weapon.”

Obama praises what he says are Erdogan’s efforts to secure peace with Israel.

The president appears with Erdogan.

Today’s press conference is to be held in the Rose Garden which, like all the best gardens, is outdoors.

Unfortunately for the assembled members of the media, it has begun to rain. The NPR correspondent spies deputy national security advisor Ben Rhodes:

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While we wait for the president, who is a half-hour “late,” you might want to delve into the internal White House emails tracing the evolution of talking points on Benghazi.

Yahoo’s Chris Wilson has created a great interactive tool that organizes the emails in a virtual inbox for easy navigation:

It won’t quite fit in our blog column – use the original version here.

(h/t: @Chris_Moody)

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President Obama will use today’s news conference to call for full funding for the state department and new security measures at US diplomatic outposts, the New York Times reports:

Among other steps, Mr. Obama will ask for Congressional support to increase the number of Marine guards posted at embassies and for Congress to act in areas that could help fulfill recommendations detailed in an independent investigation of the Benghazi attack.

Read the full piece here.

Welcome to our live blog coverage of President Obama’s joint news conference with visiting Turkish prime minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan.

Obama promised Wednesday to take questions from the media today about misconduct at the IRS and other controversies buffeting his boat, including the secret seizure of AP phone records and the Benghazi affair.

It’s the second time this week the president has used a foreign leader as a shield against a media eager to hear his reflections on how badly everything seems to be going for him. On Monday the president took one long, if multi-part, question from an American journalist after a joint conference with UK prime minister David Cameron.

Obama and Erdogan are expected to discuss the Syrian war, which the US is resisting involvement in and which threatens increasingly to spill over into Turkey. On Wednesday Turkey announced the arrest of four suspects in a car bombing attack that killed 51 in a Turkish town near the border last weekend.

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IRS discrimination scandal

In a news conference Tuesday, Holder announced that the department of justice is investigating whether IRS employees broke the law when they singled out conservative groups for extra scrutiny in reviewing requests for nonprofit status.

The activity came to light just before a report by the IRS inspector general was released on Tuesday night. The report found that applications by groups with certain names – Tea Party, Patriots or 9/12 (the date of a 2009 Glenn Beck-led Tea Party march on Washington) – for tax exempt status were singled out and frequently subjected to delay, with some still not processed three years after the initial request. The activity lasted for 18 months starting in early 2010, as the number of such requests surged, the report said.

“Those actions were, I think as everyone can agree, if not criminal, they were certainly outrageous and unacceptable,” Holder said in a news conference Tuesday. “But we are examining the facts to see if there were criminal violations.”

The scandal has huge momentum on the Hill, and Holder is likely to face questions about the scope of his investigation today. The House has announced separate hearings on the report for next week.

Republicans are calling for heads to roll. “My question isn’t about who’s going to resign — my question is who is going to jail over this scandal?” House speaker John Boehner said at a news conference Wednesday morning.

President Obama called the report’s findings “intolerable and inexcusable” and pledged to hold the IRS employees in question accountable.

Hello and welcome to our live blog coverage of attorney general Eric Holder’s testimony before the House judiciary committee. It promises to be a lively appearance, with the Republicans who control the committee having their pick of scandals to use to attack the cabinet member they love to hate most (sorry, Hillary Clinton; the House never voted to hold you in contempt).

The Obama administration has had a bad month. The Benghazi scandal flared up again. The IRS stands accused of bullying conservative groups. And the Justice Department stands accused of bullying journalists and potential whistleblowers. The attorney general has the pleasure of being directly involved in two out of three of these hot messes. Today is the first opportunity the opposition party will have had to confront him about them.

Holder’s testimony before the committee won’t be limited, however, to talk of the Obama administration’s apparent disregard for niceties like the first amendment. Committee chairman Bob Goodlatte, R-Virginia, has made it clear that he wants Holder to answer for a menu of other alleged sins. These include the alleged failure of the FBI to share information with Boston police that might have prevented the Boston Marathon bombings; alleged wasteful spending inside the Justice Department, including a $10,000 pizza party; and alleged, politically motivated neglect of cases associated with conservative causes.

The scandals touching on the IRS and alleged intimidation of journalists and whistleblowers are still unfolding actively, and we’ll take a closer look at them before Holder begins his testimony, scheduled for 1pm ET. 

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Not long after he was elected president, Barack Obama arranged what senior US officials called “Terror Tuesdays”.

On the agenda were “kill lists” — names of individuals whose perceived threat to America’s security made them targets for assassination by unmanned drone attacks in Pakistan, Yemen, and Somalia.

The kill lists, scrutinised personally by Obama at the weekly meetings, were soon expanded to become what US journalist Jeremy Scahill, author of Dirty Wars, calls a form of “pre-crime” justice where individuals are considered fair game if they met certain life patterns of suspected terrorists.

Unidentified individuals, described as “military aged-males”, would be targeted if they were at a certain place at certain times.

These are considered legitimate targets in “signature strikes”.

How Obama embraced the hawks and the unaccountable and secretive Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC) left behind by the Bush administration is powerfully documented in Dirty Wars, published in Britain by Serpent’s Tail this week.

“One of the enduring legacies of Obama’s presidency is how he has normalised assassination as a central component of what is called America’s national security policy”, Scahill told me.

It has been easier for a Nobel Peace prize winning liberal Democrat to get away with drone strikes, prosecuting and persecuting whistleblowers, keeping Congress in the dark, than a Republican hawk, Scahill suggests.

Congress has not been able, or not wanted, to question the drone strikes, and polls show a majority in support of them.

“They are seen as a smarter, new way of cleaning up war”, said Scarhill. That encouraged him to call the book, Dirty Wars.

He added: “I believe we are creating more new enemies than we are killing terrorists…And revenge is as powerful force”.

Republicans, meanwhile, have chided Obama calling the drone strikes as an alternative to transporting and interrogating terror suspects at Guantánamo Bay.

Over the past decade, the US has ordered at least 300 drone strikes in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Yemen, Iraq and Mali, taking out some high level al-Qaida targets, but also killing some 2,000 civilians, according to the Bureau of Investigative Journalism.

In his eight years in office, Bush ordered about 50 drone strikes aimed at alleged terrorists. Obama is believed to have ordered nearly 300 in his first term as president.

The belated stirrings of a debate in the US will not be welcomed by the British government which has already tried to distance itself from the opposition drone strikes have provoked in Pakistan, Yemen, and elsewhere.

Britain’s SAS has taken part in US special operations in what Scahill calls the CIA’s “black-site archipelago” and British officials are likely to be in the loop, and even helping, US security and intelligence agencies in drone strikes ordered by Washington. Lawyers acting for the British government have already warned that any UK involvement will remain secret.

Drones are here to stay.

They are likely to be used more and more against targets in north, east, and west Africa, and elsewhere. Scahill subtitles his book, The World is a Battlefield.

Dirty Wars also chronicles in detail the life and death of Anwar al-Awlaki, an American killed by a drone strike in Yemen in September 2011 on the grounds that he was an influential al-Qaida supporter and operative.

His son, Abdulrahman al-Awlaki, a 16-year-old American boy, was killed in a drone strike a month later.

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